DBZ is so inconsistent

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DBZ is so inconsistent
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Jae102	Jun 2 2014, 11:04 AM Post #1
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	DBZ is so inconsistent. Akira Toriyama shows Frieza in his first form as a planet buster but the Androids who are stronger than him and SSJ Gohan and Trunks didn't seem like Planet busters. Cell is supposed to be an Solar System buster then when Buu launches his attack it only blew up the earth and SSj2 Goku and Vegeta couldn't take it. Goku gets killed by planet destroying bomb but Goku should be taking planet buster attacks from any enemy Frieza and above. SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku vs Fat Buu battle and it feels like the earth is going to be destroyed yet when SSJG Goku faces Bills, Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu, SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Buu, and Vegito vs Super Buu the planet doesn't to be reacting the same way. Hell the Goku vs Vegeta fight way back in the Saiyan saga had the planet shaking by Goku's Kamehameha wave and Vegeta's Galick Gun attack had the whole planet shaking but attacks from characters of higher calibers rarely ever does them same. Akira Toriyama doesn't seem interested in upping the DBZ warriors feats. I wish he would Goku and Bills by now should be Universe destroyers or at least casual Galaxy Busters and the shock waves from their punches should be star busting to even partial galaxy destroyers to full galaxy destroyers. Will Akira Toriyama ever up the DBZ feats?



+ Emmeth	Jun 2 2014, 11:17 AM Post #2
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	It's entertainment and not something to be taken seriously. Incosistencies happen and it's not always a bad thing. I don't understand why fans need to pick at every little thing about Dragonball and frankly, it's getting rather annoying. Enjoy it for what it is and don't irritate yourself over small simple things.
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Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 04:55 AM Post #3
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	All I ask is show me a character that can do more than blow up a planet. I know Goku can but the feats don't show it. Show a character that has the feats to back up the claim he is a threat to the universe.



~~King Kakarot~~	Jun 3 2014, 04:59 AM Post #4
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	I somewhat agree with this The portrayal for goku and beerus were bad they did things that weren't impressive as "gods"



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jun 3 2014, 05:34 AM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I partially agree too. There's inconsistencies but I do think it's more consistent than it is inconsistent. It's not inconsistent to the point where we have no idea how powerful they are. The reason the attacks don't get any bigger is because they can compact the energy. That's why you see an attack that has the power to easily blow the entire planet away but the planet is still intact. It's kind of hard when you have two people that are easily capable of destroying the planet with their finger fighting on Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jun 3 2014, 05:39 AM.
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+ Solid Snake	Jun 3 2014, 07:39 AM Post #6
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Well with most of the fighting taking place on Earth makes that hard. Having to wish back the planet back to back.
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+ miguelnuva	Jun 3 2014, 08:41 AM Post #7
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	DBZ suffers from what Yu Yu hakosho did right. After the Frieza fight battles should have taken place away from Earth like when Yu Yu hakusho took the S class battles to the demon world. When ever you have to worry about a battlefield like Earth with planet busters the feats are inconsistent.
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Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 01:16 PM Post #8
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	miguelnuva Jun 3 2014, 08:41 AM DBZ suffers from what Yu Yu hakosho did right. After the Frieza fight battles should have taken place away from Earth like when Yu Yu hakusho took the S class battles to the demon world. When ever you have to worry about a battlefield like Earth with planet busters the feats are inconsistent. Exactly the Saiyans should of atleast been able to breath in space hell there should of been a KI technique at least.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM Post #9
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Characters have to expand their energy to any significant amount of damage to a planet or any number of celestial objects. More often than not, they're just focused on beating their opponent, but in the cases of Cell and Vegeta, they'll blow up the battlefield if they darn well have to. Plus, Cell claimed he can destroy the Solar System so the series is clearly scaling.
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Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 02:07 PM Post #10
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM Characters have to expand their energy to any significant amount of damage to a planet or any number of celestial objects. More often than not, they're just focused on beating their opponent, but in the cases of Cell and Vegeta, they'll blow up the battlefield if they darn well have to. Plus, Cell claimed he can destroy the Solar System so the series is clearly scaling. The problem is how do we know Cell was not bluffing. I'd be fine with Cell's statement if Buu blew up a galaxy or a Solar System because I could believe it since Buu is stronger than Cell but he didn't Buu chose to blow up the earth and he was stronger than Cell so that makes Cell look weak and bad.



+ Emmeth	Jun 3 2014, 02:09 PM Post #11
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Could someone provide me the quote where Cell states he can destroy the Solar System? Never mind, found it: Chapter: 415 (DBZ 221), P3.2, P4.2 Context: while charging the Kamehameha Cell: “I’ve already gathered enough ki power to blow away not only the Earth, but the solar system as well!” Random people far away: “Wh-what’s happening!?” “It’s an earthquake…!” Edited by Emmeth, Jun 3 2014, 02:12 PM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 3 2014, 02:25 PM Post #12
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 02:07 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM Characters have to expand their energy to any significant amount of damage to a planet or any number of celestial objects. More often than not, they're just focused on beating their opponent, but in the cases of Cell and Vegeta, they'll blow up the battlefield if they darn well have to. Plus, Cell claimed he can destroy the Solar System so the series is clearly scaling. The problem is how do we know Cell was not bluffing. I'd be fine with Cell's statement if Buu blew up a galaxy or a Solar System because I could believe it since Buu is stronger than Cell but he didn't Buu chose to blow up the earth and he was stronger than Cell so that makes Cell look weak and bad. Well, for us to assume it's a possibility, we would need examples of cases where characters lied about their ability to destroy something, which has never happened. Like I said, they need to expand their energy to destroy large objects so the lack of SS busting doesn't contradict anything, outside scaling with physics.
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+ Emmeth	Jun 3 2014, 02:28 PM Post #13
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 02:25 PM Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 02:07 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM Characters have to expand their energy to any significant amount of damage to a planet or any number of celestial objects. More often than not, they're just focused on beating their opponent, but in the cases of Cell and Vegeta, they'll blow up the battlefield if they darn well have to. Plus, Cell claimed he can destroy the Solar System so the series is clearly scaling. The problem is how do we know Cell was not bluffing. I'd be fine with Cell's statement if Buu blew up a galaxy or a Solar System because I could believe it since Buu is stronger than Cell but he didn't Buu chose to blow up the earth and he was stronger than Cell so that makes Cell look weak and bad. Well, for us to assume it's a possibility, we would need examples of cases where characters lied about their ability to destroy something, which has never happened. Like I said, they need to expand their energy to destroy large objects so the lack of SS busting doesn't contradict anything, outside scaling with physics. I agree with this. If Akira Toriyama specifically makes Cell say such a thing, he can probably do it.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 3 2014, 02:34 PM Post #14
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Meh. There ain't really a big deal to think more about some Z discussion. I'm just gonna say that fighters know how to use their Ki attacks without killing themselves and others when not appropriate.



Jae102	Jun 3 2014, 02:47 PM Post #15
Posts: 46 Group: Member Member #11,407 Joined: June 2, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ and Gundam What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Gundam, Kenichi, Slayers, and any love manga.	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 02:25 PM Jae102 Jun 3 2014, 02:07 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 3 2014, 01:29 PM Characters have to expand their energy to any significant amount of damage to a planet or any number of celestial objects. More often than not, they're just focused on beating their opponent, but in the cases of Cell and Vegeta, they'll blow up the battlefield if they darn well have to. Plus, Cell claimed he can destroy the Solar System so the series is clearly scaling. The problem is how do we know Cell was not bluffing. I'd be fine with Cell's statement if Buu blew up a galaxy or a Solar System because I could believe it since Buu is stronger than Cell but he didn't Buu chose to blow up the earth and he was stronger than Cell so that makes Cell look weak and bad. Well, for us to assume it's a possibility, we would need examples of cases where characters lied about their ability to destroy something, which has never happened. Like I said, they need to expand their energy to destroy large objects so the lack of SS busting doesn't contradict anything, outside scaling with physics. still it doesn't back up it's claim. Think about it Kid Buu didn't care and by now Goku and Vegeta were both Super Saiyan well beyond Gohan's level so if Cell's statement was true then why wouldn't they try to deflect a planet busting attack if they can take more than that? They chose to leave earth because they couldn't take the attack that only blew up the planet. This would of been the perfect time to show Solar System busting feats. The truth is unless they do it they can't do it. We needs feats to show them. Goku was killed by a bomb meant to destroy the earth. Just the earth and by your statement he take planet busting shots all the time. So why did he die to cells bomb. The same can go with the battle they show a certain level for one fight like the Goku vs Buu but Gotenks, Gohan, and Vegito who are all stronger than SSJ3 Goku didn't show anywhere near the same feats that makes no sense. Goku's smart enough to hold back too at SSJ3. Edited by Jae102, Jun 3 2014, 02:51 PM.



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